From: owner-brotherhood-digest@flwyd.dhs.org (Brotherhood Digest) To: brotherhood-digest@flwyd.dhs.org Subject: Brotherhood Digest V1 #145 Reply-To: brotherhood Sender: owner-brotherhood-digest@flwyd.dhs.org Errors-To: owner-brotherhood-digest@flwyd.dhs.org Precedence: bulk Brotherhood Digest Tuesday, February 20 2001 Volume 01 : Number 145 Today's subjects from the Brotherhood: Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... [Brotherhood] Thanks Re: [Brotherhood] Thanks Re: [Brotherhood] Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 21:12:19 EST From: Whitecat31@aol.com Subject: Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... Speaking of Spirit wars, I would like to point out something. Inkyo This card is a fate back and has a focus value. BUT is this card a follower or is it a misprinted personality? As a follower he rocks. He gives 2 chi to your personality, and his force is equal to the number of elemental rings in play. He is the first follower I have ever seen have a negative honor requirement and have a personal honor. By definition, if you bring him into play you actually gain his one personal honor. You would have to be a member of the monk clan though. (Ok it could be a misprint) I would never actually push this issue. Too bad he can not cast kihos. I would actually consider putting him into a deck that needs chi. He might show up in a Toturi Army dueling deck or a Phoenix enlightenment deck. As a personality, he is free or pay 2 gold and get his one honor. He is cannon fodder in an enlightenment deck, because he can not cast kihos. He would be good in an water ring, empty the hand, and get the void ring with kaede sensei deck. For now I will treat him as a follower. Just throwing this up for discussion. Also, I already answered the guys question. Everybody else quit answering it as well. We are a broken record that keeps repeating itself. David Starr Whitecat31 GAB Vice-Admiral in the Starlight Blue Team Card collector extroidinare. Keeper of the Harmony. (I have found harmony many times) * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:18:56 -0800 (PST) From: Todo Subject: Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... >For > now I will treat him as a follower. Good call cause he is one. :-) A personality wouldn't have "+2" chi. I did a websune search for him and it showed his honor requirement as "1" and his PH as "-". That's right in line with being a follower. > Just throwing this up for discussion. Also, I > already answered the guys question. Everybody else > quit answering it as well. We are a broken record > that keeps repeating itself. Such is the way of listserves. Unless you want one question answerer above all others, thus rendering the list pointless in a way. ===== Todo Woolly Maggot Clan Champion | Shadowlands Monk Founder - Save the Ogres - http://www.geocities.com/darkmoto "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US !!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:19:33 EST From: Whitecat31@aol.com Subject: Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... Todo, Don't do a websune search.. Look at the card. You will understand the confusion when you see it. The follower does not say +2 chi it says 2. If you also look at it you will see it looks like a personality. If you cover up the focus value and put it in a dark sleeve, it looks like a personality. David Starr Whitecat31 GAB Vice-Admiral in the Starlight Blue Team Finder of Harmony In a message dated Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:19:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, Todo writes: << >For > now I will treat him as a follower. Good call cause he is one. :-) A personality wouldn't have "+2" chi. I did a websune search for him and it showed his honor requirement as "1" and his PH as "-". That's right in line with being a follower. > Just throwing this up for discussion. Also, I > already answered the guys question. Everybody else > quit answering it as well. We are a broken record > that keeps repeating itself. Such is the way of listserves. Unless you want one question answerer above all others, thus rendering the list pointless in a way. ===== Todo Woolly Maggot Clan Champion | Shadowlands Monk Founder - Save the Ogres - http://www.geocities.com/darkmoto "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US !!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe >> * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:19:46 -0500 From: Brent Keith Subject: Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... > > One more thing, how many monks were there in Spirit > > Wars?? > >Only one important one! On the other hand, the last Clan War journal (Thunder's Challenge) includes some nice Brotherhood units and leaders. It is absolutely trivial to make a monk army which draws three cards a turn, and there are excellent options for dueling and maneuver based armies. Sadly, the number is still fairly limited, and the army must have a Phoenix or Dragon general or else suffer horrendous price markups (can't legally have a Monk general at this time), but Brotherhood options at least exist now and are pretty spiff. Shosho Mercenary & Mujina Wrangler * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:12:02 -0700 From: Trevor Stone Subject: Re: [Brotherhood] Hello.... Long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Whitecat31@aol.com said: >Don't do a websune search.. Look at the card. You will understand the confusio >n when you see it. The follower does not say +2 chi it says 2. If you also lo >ok at it you will see it looks like a personality. If you cover up the focus v >alue and put it in a dark sleeve, it looks like a personality. > From the Accumulated Rulings, http://www.planet.net.au/~zfaulkes/rulings.html (the first place to look on any rules question): Inkyo * Should read, "Inkyo *F/+2C 1HR 2G -PH 2Fo Monk. Inkyo's Force equals the number of Elemental Rings in play. Inkyo cannot cast Kihos." [Erratum, JA, 26 October 2000] Definitely a follower. =-=-=-= Trevor Stone =-=-= a.k.a. Flwyd =-=-= tstone @ flwyd.dhs.org =-=-=-= Computer science, eclectic philosophy, games, wits, esotericism, weird hats. http://www.flwyd.dhs.org/ Thou grizzled fly-bitten jack-a-nape! Keep your mind in check, libido-boy. -- The Cube, http://www.forum2000.org/ * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:01:49 -0000 From: "Mustafa Bharmal" Subject: [Brotherhood] Thanks Hi all, Thought I'd just say thanks to everyone for answering my questions. Now you can all go back to meditating in silence... (if you want :-) From: Whitecat31@aol.com >Speaking of Spirit wars, I would like to point out something. >Inkyo >This card is a fate back and has a focus value. >BUT is this card a follower or is it a misprinted personality? I believe he's been erratted as it was printed with errors. We had the erratta read out at the start of our SW pre release tournament. >Just throwing this up for discussion. Also, I already answered the guys question. Everybody else quit answering it as well. We are a broken record that keeps repeating itself. Well, it was good to get different opinions/confirmation. Also, it got some talk/discussions going. Does anyone here have the 'Way of Shinsei' book?? I don't roleplay but recently bought Way of the Lion (I used to play Lion, and will return in Gold) and I thought it was great and I wondered if the monk book is as good.. * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 01:14:19 -0000 From: "Dagonz O'Club" Subject: Re: [Brotherhood] Thanks >Does anyone here have the 'Way of Shinsei' book?? >I don't roleplay but recently bought Way of the Lion (I used to play Lion, >and will return in Gold) and I thought it was great and I wondered if the >monk book is as good.. Hi Mustafa! It's excellent. Makes pretty powerful monk characters, even though I was a bit disappointed at the lack of heritage tables, but I understand why they aren't there. And seeing Eisai with hair is a must. Gotta love it! Agasha Akaijin Phoenix Clan Magic Theorician Bad Chemist "If it ever does blow up, it won't be my fault, will it?" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:06:19 -0500 From: Brent Keith Subject: Re: [Brotherhood] Thanks >Does anyone here have the 'Way of Shinsei' book?? >I don't roleplay but recently bought Way of the Lion (I used to play Lion, >and will return in Gold) and I thought it was great and I wondered if the >monk book is as good.. It is a mixed bag. Many of the abilities are pretty unbalanced. I got the impression play testing was a bit on the light side. There is some good source material, but much of it is a mixed up version of real world stuff. (Example: there is discussion of various sutras, but they mix them up.) There is some excellent artwork within, and there is some mediocre art. Example: in the section discussing specific characters and their backgrounds, all of the elemental acolytes look damn near exactly alike. Also, the cover seems to feature an Ebonite (remember LBS?) and Uncle Fester. As I say, it does have its good points. Some of the kiho are well balanced, and even though it mixes real world stuff it at least gives a jumping off point. Shosho Mercenary & Mujina Wrangler * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, * mail brotherhood-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of unsubscribe ------------------------------ End of Brotherhood Digest V1 #145 ********************************* * You received this message because you're subscribed to brotherhood-digest * To send a message, mail brotherhood@flwyd.dhs.org To unsubscribe, mail * brotherhood-digest-request@flwyd.dhs.org with a body of 'unsubscribe'